inspired by another thread.. i was baptized at 12 years old.
i had a cousin, two years older than me, who was prettier, more outgoing and more popular in the hall than i was.
i couldn't beat her at any of that stuff, but i figured i could be a better jw than she was.
Some your stories are truly heartbreaking. One of the best things about truly heartbreaking tales is that they can lead to such great humor -- eventually. LOL at bluecanary and darklighter; I truly did lol, as well.
chickpea and homeschool! So glad you're out!
how easy is it to get the private cell phone records and address of verizon's ceo?.
our cell phone records are not safe.. .
even if you have an unlisted number, chances are that all your personal data -- your cell phone number, who you called, where you live, and the number of your private sex therapist -- are all up for sale somewhere on the internet.
I'm lovin it
in a recent thread, i was basically called out in this manner.. here is part of the quote:.
mean no disrespect with the following but i have to ask, when you disassociated yourself what did you think would happen?
did you expect witnesses to suddenly change to accommodate you?
Lola,
As a born-in JW, who initially was backed into the disassociation corner, and then backed into the disfellowshipping corner, I am fully aware of the "choices" and "consequences" of life.
Those were some unfair "choices" for a 13-to-15-year-old to make.
Generalizing disassociating from the JWs as a "militant" act may be accurate in some, but not all cases.
I think the problem that people are having with your approach is that you are generalizing and pontificating as if every case and instance were the same, and they are not, and it is a de-humanizing thing to do and say about people who have come to this board for support and/or friendship.
People who are smarting from a burn or blow they already knew was coming don't need to hear,"you made me do it . . . if only you had or hadn't done this or that, I would not have smacked you down." They need to hear,"it won't happen again, at least not here, and not with me." Somehow, I can't hear that in words like:
"until the society changes the way they deal with DF’ed and DA’ed ones we all have to understand the sort of treatment that we will receive if we make the choice to leave." Where is support, empathy, friendship or love in those words?
There is no one here who has not been smacked down by the Watchtower Clowns, even their biggest apologists, so there is no need to tell those of us who have already been smacked down -- AND who've pretty much gotten up and brushed off our knees and decided to share our stories and help someone else or ourselves sort out our feelings -- to get over it or take it like a man. It shows contempt for the pain of others to do so.
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in a recent thread, i was basically called out in this manner.. here is part of the quote:.
mean no disrespect with the following but i have to ask, when you disassociated yourself what did you think would happen?
did you expect witnesses to suddenly change to accommodate you?
Lola, how and why do you equate getting disfellowshipped or disassociating with "telling a whole group of people to go straight to hell?"
Disfellowshipping is what happens by default because someone can't allow themselves to disassociate, and disassociating happens because the JW organization backs individuals who can't or won't meet impossible expectations into a corner.
"Choosing" to do one or the other isn't really a choice for people who want and need to self-actualize as human beings, but who would remain locked into a cult if one or the other did not occur.
This is why the "victim" and "rape" analogy is rightly used to describe the experiences and feelings of those who have experienced it, and why telling them to "take it like a man" is so offensive.
in a recent thread, i was basically called out in this manner.. here is part of the quote:.
mean no disrespect with the following but i have to ask, when you disassociated yourself what did you think would happen?
did you expect witnesses to suddenly change to accommodate you?
purplesofa's words are what it's all about for many of us:
"In my mind I take it like a man, in my heart it's a very hurt child."
"Giving support is one thing, enabling a victim mentality is another thing."
he was born yesterday with many complications including breathing problems, possible lung underdevelpment, anemia and body temperature issues.
the poor little guy was hooked up to a breathing tube and tons of monitors.
because the hospitals couldn't handle some of the problems, they sent him and my daughter to the best hospital in boston last night.
I hope he continues to improve and grow; so sad to start out with such a struggle, but he will be a fighter . . . keeping my fingers crossed for you and your family.
my dad hasn't been to the convention yet but he is very excited to go.
he has been told by a friend of his who went that it is a milestone convention like cedar point, ohio and that after this, nothing will be the same again.. from what i know he is in for a disappointment.
i think they could safely call this year's assembly theme "much ado about nothing"!.
Dang it! I missed yet another milestone ASSembly! There was one here in Raleigh, too. Was it the same thing?
That's really, really, really sad to think that people committed suicide over that, Homer. I'm sorry you lost those people.
cbs sunday morning news often has inspirational stories.
here was one about a family that came from poverty and was inspired to send everyone to college- everyone in the family:.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/24/assignment_america/main5187096.shtml?tag=contentmain;contentbody.
I like the way you expressed that, Scully. Skeeter said something similar somewhere earlier that I also appreciated, about jehovah making a bird who refused to use its wings to fly.
If god gave us great minds, wouldn't he expect us to develop and use them to the maximum potential? Not pursuing education is like the bird not using its wings or you not using your talent.
Someone once said to me that humility is knowing what you can do and doing it, and in light of all that, it's easy to understand the meaning - - just doing it and not making a big production out of it or debasing it with false humility the way the dubs do.
in a recent thread, i was basically called out in this manner.. here is part of the quote:.
mean no disrespect with the following but i have to ask, when you disassociated yourself what did you think would happen?
did you expect witnesses to suddenly change to accommodate you?
Lucky Calamity looks up with her soulful wolf eyes, licks her wounds and growls a little growl . . . then howls a little howl at the watchtower, and lurks off into the night of swirling clouds as the crescent moon smiles down upon her.
